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Det 23  :  Udorn RTAFB  :  Udorn Thailand  :  TDY  74/75
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Call Sign,  LID

These images look somewhat odd because they are on 35mm slide film.  I developed them at the
Photo Club on base.  The Photo Club didn't have the exact chemicals for the slide film because
there was a dock strike at the Oakland CA Army Base from where military supplies are shipped to
SEA, (South East Asia).

Also I don't have a slide projector or attachment for my scanner.

I mounted some White Light LEDs into a 2" x 2" hand held slide viewer and used my digital
camera to take a picture of the slide at
2560 x 1920.
     Some things I learned while I was at this site.  
    (We were not doing live drips during the 6 months time I was assigned to this site, '74-'75.)

    This was a support site for
Lima 85 in Laos.  I had been told a story about the second TSQ-81 mentioned on this
page, Number 13.  While at Det 23 it was completely stripped of any printing or labels that would indicate the equipment's
origin.   Somehow a base safety officer got onto the site and covered the equipment inside and out with safety violation
stickers.  He had to leave and the stickers removed.  

    My Ops position was Recorder so I worked with the maps.   Part of setting up for a mission is to draw the "penetration
fix" and the "target box".  While looking through the maps we had,  I noticed several cases where both penetration fixes
and target boxes had been erased out of the maps.  These maps were of Laos.

    I was looking through some
BDA photography from before my time at the site.  The before photos showed a number
of low long shacks covered by thick dense green jungle over growth.  The after photos looked like a lunar landscape.

    Det 23 was a guest at Udorn RTAFB, (Royal Thai Air Force Base),  as I remember the base was primarily TAC Air
Reconnaissance when I was there as the war was basically over.  So what I primarily saw were

There were several probably F-4Cs that sat on ready,  at the end of the runway, (bottom of page), that I passed on
my way to the site each day.      Rumor had it that once one of the missiles left a wing and took out a cable house,  it
didn't explode,  just momentum.  

Primary Penetration Fix. The fix from which the Primary Entry Track of an MTR
begins. This fix shall be described by reference to a ground−based navigational aid.

Military Training Route (MTR). Routes developed for use by the military for the
purpose of conducting low−altitude, high−speed training.

From FAA rules :

All-weather tactical reconnaissance version for the US Air Force, AN/APQ-99 (later AN/APQ-172) radar.
Equipped similar to RF-4B but with a wider choice of camera fits, including the gigantic HIAC-1 LOROP (Long
Range Oblique Photography) camera capable of high-resolution images of objects 100 miles (160 km) away
in a centerline pod. Many aircraft were refitted with a more spacious bulging streamlined nose. While usually
unarmed, RF-4Cs retained the ability to carry a nuclear weapon on the centerline pylon. Modernized RF-4Cs
extensively participated in the Desert Storm war; 505 built.


Two-seat all-weather tactical fighter, ground-attack version for the US Air Force; supported a wide spectrum
of weapons including AIM-4 Falcon, AGM-12 Bullpup, and nuclear weapons; wider main wheel tires resulted
in distinctive wing bulges; J79-GE-15 engines with provision for cartridge start; boom refueling instead of
Navy's probe and drogue refueling; AN/APQ-100 radar; duplicated flight controls in the rear cockpit. The
exceeded Mach 2 during its first flight on 27 May 1963; 583 built.
Zoom Climb  

Higher altitude can be reached by first speeding up and then going ballistic, a maneuver known as a zoom
Altitude Ft.  (St. Mi)
Time Sec.  (m:s)
Speed MPH
9,840  (1.86)
19,680  (3.72)
29.530  (5.59)
61.629  (1: 1.6)
39,370  (7.46)
77.156  (1:17.2)
Operation High Jump
Early 1964
Stock F-4 : Time to Altitude
49,210  (9.32)
114.548  (1:54.5)
65,600  (12.42)
178.5  (2:58.5)
82,000  (15.53)
320.44  (5:20.4)
98,400 (18.63)
371.43 (6:11.4)
100,000+  (18.93)
Zoom Climb
Operation Sageburner: On 28 August 1961, a Phantom averaged 902.769 miles per hour
(1,452.826 km/h) over a 3-mile (1.86 km) course
flying below 125 feet (40 m) at all times. Navy
Commander J.L. Felsman was killed during the first attempt at this record on 18 May 1961 when his
aircraft disintegrated in the air after pitch damper failure.
Operation Top Flight:
    On 6 December 1959, the second XF4H-1 performed a zoom climb to a world record 98,557 feet (30,040 m).
    The previous record of 94,658 feet (28,852 m) was set by a Soviet Sukhoi T-43-1 prototype.           

    Commander Lawrence E. Flint Jr. accelerated his aircraft to
Mach 2.5 at 47,000 feet (14,330 m) and climbed to
90,000 feet (27,430 m) at a 45 degree angle.

    He then
shut down the engines and glided to the peak altitude.  As the aircraft fell through 70,000 feet
(21,300 m), Flint restarted the engines and resumed normal flight.
I think the F-4 is my favorite small plane.

It just looks fast.
F-4 Phantom II